In Conservatorship of Pamela J. (2005) 133 Cal.App.4th 807, a patient (the conservatee) appealed a trial court ruling made in her absence that authorized her father to determine whether she would be given electroconvulsive treatment. The Court of Appeal reversed, deciding the relevant provisions of the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act ( 5000 et seq.) required the patient's presence at the hearing. (Pamela J., at p. 825.) Discussing Evidence Code section 775, the court rejected the reasoning of Lois R. and Gloria M. on the ground those cases had been decided before the Supreme Court's decision in Carlucci. (Pamela J., at p. 826.) Allowing focused questioning by a trial court "aids in a 'simplified and expeditious' resolution of a capacity hearing unconstrained by the more stringent procedural requirements of a major civil trial ... and benefits the interests of the patient as well as medical professionals, court and public." (Id. at p. 828.) These policies are equally at play in juvenile dependency proceedings.